Old Dog V
Accuracy
Bob Neumann, 12.8.2001
Dear Stephen, On Pearl Harbor Day i found myself looking backwards for the first time in quite awhile. On my emailer was a couple of posts asking about “what is to come”… and the “prophetic” in the BODY today. As i was struggling to respond to one post i looked back at the WPA only to find this question from Mr. Larry Olson, and things just fell ogether. At least in my discernment. So please forgive me for posting this and stirring things up once again.
I said i still had things to do…. bob Dear Mr. Olson, Please forgive my audacity at responding tardily to your question of Wed Dec 5, 2001 11:50 pm when you asked an interesting question.…
“Is there a consensus. Who are the most powerful accurate prophets today, and what percent accurate are they?”
Steve Bening responded to this as did several others. Stephen Holmes on Fri Dec 7, 2001 11:14 am gave a response i will have to “argue” with when he said… “”Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Amos, John, etc. All 100% accurate.””
For you see…none of these Old Testament Prophets have been proven out. Likewise Mr. Holmes failed to mention the most important of all prophets, Yeshua ben Yosef….our KING. But even JESUS has prophecies yet to be fulfilled. And i believe that this is the crux of the problem. So please allow me to make a wild statement…
THERE ARE PROPHETS, and then there are prophets.…
In America today there are roving ministries that use the terms prophet or prophetic in their game plan. But the question you raise is different. You are asking if there is a PROPHET IN THE LAND. Even more enjoyable to my perverse sense of humor is your request for accuracy percentages. In the Amerikan Church going 1 for 3 is pretty good. The problem is, as it always is…with THE WORD OF GOD.
According to the BOOK if a prophet is wrong once….he/she is a false prophet and is to be put to death.
But as i said…there are PROPHETS…and there are prophets.
Look back to the time of MOSES….people were prophesying in the camp. JESUS’S disciples had the same problem with non-disciples. At the time of Samuel prophets were wandering around, Saul joined them….remember? Now when Elijah the Tishbite came around prophets were hiding in caves. Later there were schools of them in Jericho and Bethel. But we have no real proof GOD ALMIGHTY used them.
Now we know Nathan was sent to DAVID…like Elijah to AHAB. A “young” prophet was sent to Jeroboam….and an “old” prophet caused his death. Similarly Eli was warned to get his sons in order. Scripture says GOD SENDS HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS. Mr. Holmes mention some men who GOD SENT. But not all of what they have written has come to pass….YET. There is your crux. We have been waiting to see AMOS 9 come to pass for a long time. The same goes for Isaiah 62. And i can go on.
Mr. Olson, forgive me, but what you asked is for prognostication, not someone who comes forth and speaks the ORACLES OF GOD. For hundreds of years people were prophesying all over the place, but GOD DID NOT USE THEM. Instead, IT IS WRITTEN that GOD SENT a “lying spirit” to fill the mouths of the false prophets who spoke…how did Isaiah put it….”smoooothhhh things…”
8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever
9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD
10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits
11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us
Isaiah was told to write those specific words. And as it was then, is it any different now? Today the issue is “personal prophecy” to entertain the congregation. To give “HOLY GHOST GOOSE BUMPS” to one and all. No one wants to hear a David Wilkerson any more today as when they threw Jeremiah into the cistern. Every week there are hundreds of “words” posted on the different internet sites. Lots of people doing it. Much of it sounds “good”, feels “spiritual”. Too bad some of it that gets forwarded back and forth is so unscriptural. But like i said at the start the problem is with THE WORD OF GOD. Hebrews 5 ends with “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” Too many can not discern, so they prefer to “feel good”.
Mr. Olson, if you want to “find” the SERVANTS that ABBA is sending today to confront sin in this nation you may have to look back months and years. See what was written and how it stands today. Isaiah prophesied 150 years before Jeremiah. The nation really did not change. David Wilkerson has been warning and teaching for years. Dimitriu Dudemon was sent to the US of A to warn us and for years went wherever he could to warn. Several others have long hard records of doing the same.
But let me share an aspect with you as i screech to a halt. Steve Bening moves under the ANOINTING of Jeremiah, as John the Baptist was filled with THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH. In the first 15 chapters Jeremiah was clearly told that his people had gone too far and GOD had had it. He was told to stop “praying”…”interceding” for them. Chapter 15 culminates it quite well. Only Jerry wrote a total of 52 chapters. Jerry had a lot of work to do after GOD said Jerusalem was “condemned” to destruction. Today many say if we play games we can prevent “bad things” from happening. Pray, Fast, Assemble and GOD will change HIS MIND. All i have id Jeremiah 15 to bring me to reality.
All ABBA’S KIDS were given the GIFTS OF THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. THE GIFTS were to minister unto the sheep. Not to build personal kingdoms. That is what we see. Big name ministries going from church to church making a living off of GOD. And the sheep are scattered and the children hunger for simple bread and water. There is little milk and no meat or honey to be found. For a long time there has been a famine in the land. Yet we hear of prosperity from all sides. Darkness grows deeper and the night colder.
And prophets abound all over the land.
selah bob neumann
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